108 Gen: James Gould Jr. c1775 - After 1831 (108.html)
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The Gould Family Tree
Table of Contents
- Keywords
- Introduction and Contributors
- The Battle of Saratoga
- Ancestors of Lieutenant James Gould (1743-1822)
- The senior James GOULD family
- The younger James GOULD family
- Family of James GOULD and Sophia PENN
- Death of James GOULD Jr
- Sophier nee Goold Roberts, daughter of James Gould Jr. and Sophie Paine
- William Gould (c1798-1865), son of James Gould jr. and of Sophie Paine
- James Gould (1840-?), son of a different William Gould
- Ancestors of Henry Butter Gould (c1790-1908)
- Yvette nee Richard COLE's descent from Sophie PENN
- Surname Changes List: LOVEJOY to COLE
- Baptism of children of Sophia nee Penn Commons
- Sainte-Madeleine de Havre-aux-Maisons
- Old Baptisms, Marriages, Burials in Sydney
- Joseph Payne (1695-1767) m Anna Babcock (1701-1776)
- John Payne (1725-?) m Jemima Hutchinson (1730-1775)
- John Payne Jr m Lydia Tisdale (1745-)
- Two Different Persons: Sophie Penn and Sophie Peine
- The Ancestors of Sophia Penn (1776-1857)
- Sophie Payne (1776-1857)
- Sophia PENN at the FamilySearch.org website
- Handwritten Tree: Gould and Leete Lines
- St. George's Anglican Church in Sydney, Nova Scotia
- St. Lawrence church in Bovington, Hertfordshire, UK
- Jan's Ancestor: Reuben R Herriott (1807-1874)
- Index of People Mentioned in this Article
- External Sources:
Keywords
"Surname Descendancy List"
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Introduction
For many of us, the ancestors of either James Gould Jr or his wife Sophie Penn were unknown. But
recently the descendants of both families met and now the history of this couple is being
put together. James was on the American side fighting against the British at Saratoga. After the war, in Canada, he married
Sophie Penn whose father, 2nd Lieutenant John Payne, also served on the American side, in Col Sealy's regiment.
It is unknown why James Gould and Sophie Penn were living in Cape Breton in 1791 when they were married. (Readers must
remember that before 1812, Massachusetts, Nova Scotia, Cape Breton etc. were still under British rule.) Their last child,
Sophie GOULD was born on June 9 1803. The GOULD surname (along with Reilly, Milward, Bollong, Wheeler, Ley, Neale, Huxford, Russell) appears
in a list of inhabitants of Mainadieu in Peter Landry's
book: History of Nova Scotia (in 7 volumes) [External References: Book 8, Source 50]. Source 50 is an on-line version of this same book,
although the books` names differ. Landry`s
on-line book contains a treasure-trove of web-links including a glossary and a list of the books that Landry used as his sources etc.
After 1802, their marriage in Canada failed and James returned to the USA. Sophie
remained in Canada and remarried. Sophie's second husband was William Cummings. This webpage is about
James Gould Jr., Sophie Penn, their families, many of their ancestors and their descendants with many sources and links to other websites.
A second web-page (Source 48: Article 111) was created by this same web-master (David Cole) that describes Lt.
James Gould Sr. (1743-1822), his wife Mary Lovejoy, their children and their ancestors. Most of
these ancestors have been excluded from the web-page (Article 108 about James Gould Jr.), that you are currently reading.
Contributors:
This article is possible due to genealogy work mainly by the following persons (and others):
Janine Barber whose parents researched the Gould Family including the Gould family bible.
Paul Delaney whose extensive research includes many families such as Payne from Magdeline Islands.
David Cole who published the Payne family information on the Web where Janine Barber and Karen Sims found it.
Spellings of Surnames
SURNAME AKA
Arseneault Arsenau, Arseneau, Arsenault
Babcock Badcock
Boutelier Boutalier, Boutilier, Boutillier
Cilley Sealy
Cummings Commons
Gould Gold or Goold
Herriott Harriot
Hutchinson Huthenson
Penn Payne, Peine, Payn, Pern, Pinney or Pain
Theriault Theriau, Thériault, Terriot, Therriault
Tisdale Tisdall, Thisdelle
Vigneau Vignau, Vigneault
The Battle of Saratoga
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Map of the Battle Of Saratoga 1777
The father of Private James Gould was Lieutenant James Gould who fought in the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. From Source 1, we learn:
This was a battle
between the Americans from New Hampshire and the British. The American leaders were:
-Maj. Dearborn's Battalion of Infantry,
-Col. Cilley's [aka Sealy's] Continental Reg't, First N.H.,
-Col. Reid's Second N.H. Reg't,
-Col. Scammell's Third N.H. Reg't.
Lieutenant James Gould was in Col. Cilley's Continental Reg't, First N.H.
The British leader was General Burgoyne. The senior officers of the British regiments were Major General Phillips,
Baron Riedesel, Brigadier Simon Fraser and Brigadier Hamilton. Burgoyne was allied with the following forces:
-General Sir William Howe, who had invaded the New York City area in 1776,
-a contingent of Native Americans who decided to leave in 1777,
-a second British column under Clinton was stalled by the American controlled Fort Stanwix,
-his allies, the German troops, the Hessiers, were overwhelmed by the Americans,
-a major British column en route to seek supplies in Vermont was overrun, costing Burgoyne 1000 men.
General Burgoyne capitulated on 17 October 1777, a major turning point in the US War for Independance
The exact quotation (from p229, shown below, of Source 01) about Lieutenant James Gould is:
In Col. Cilley's Regiment, Captain William Scott of Peterborourgh, Lieutenant James Gould of Groton, Lieutenant Jonathan
Emerson of Dunstable and Lieutenant Barzillal Howe of Hillsborough were all wounded and Captain Jason Waitt of Alstead
and Lieutenant John Moore of Pembroke were made prisoners.
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Granite Monthly p229
More information is available in Book 2 (see External References below). Janine Barber writes:
Bev Henry, a respected Gould family genealogist, got in touch with me regarding merging Lt. James Gould with my
Lt. James Gould [in WikiTree]. We both have copies of (the printed book) Goulds of Topsfield, MA [Book 2, Source 49] that notes Lt James Gould's
parents.
Book 5 listed at the end of this article, is said to contain references to Lt James Gould and his son, Pvt James Gould who both
participated in the American Revolutionary War.
Source 31 is a link to James (John) Gould Sr (1668-?). The "www" link takes you to his live "clickable" record at Ancestry.com but a paid
subscription to Ancestry is necessary to do much with it. The non-www link in Source 31 is a "free" image of the Ancestry webpage showing
his parents and children.
Ancestors of Lieutenant James Gould (1743-1822)
The webpage at WikiTree (Source 13) shown below is the family tree of the Gould ancestors of Lieutenant James Gould (1743-1822)
going back to Thomas Gould (c1613-1675). The wife of the latter was Hannah Miller (1621-15 Mar 1647). Previous ancestors
can be found at Source 13.
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Ancestors of Lieutenant James Gould (1743-1822)
The senior James GOULD family
Source 12 at Ancestry is one of the most detailed descriptions of the parents and birth of Lieutenant James GOULD. Because
Ancestry usually requires a paid subscription, a photo of the family description at this Ancestry web page is provided.
Beware the web Link named "www" goes directly to Ancestry.com. The other web Link named "Parents of Lieutenant James GOULD"
brings up the photo of the Ancestry Page. Here we see that Lieutenant James (John) GOULD was Born in Kingston Bagpuis,
Berkshire, England on 22 Jun 1668.
Book 4, described at the bottom of this article, refers to a small article that describes the early married life of Lt James GOULD with
his unnamed wife, Mary Lovejoy, and the birth of their first son, James GOULD Jr. This article can be found in one of the files in Source 16. This file is named
11112015112926.pdf which contains page 386 of the Gazetteer and contains the full text.
The younger James GOULD family
The WikiTree website (Source 26) image shown below, describing this family does not provide information about the
husband and family of Ann Gould.
Source 12 (at Ancestry.com) is one of the most detailed description of the family and descendants of James GOULD. The
Source 26 www web link takes you to James Gould (1765-Before 1841) on WikiTree. The other web Link named "WikiTree: James
GOULD (1765-Before 1841)" brings up a photo of the Descendants of James Gould (at WikiTree). For many years the 4 children in
this family have been listed on WorldConnect which is Source 2.
But more information about the family of Ann Gould can be
found in the section of this current webpage entitled "Yvette nee Richard Cole's descent from Sophie PENN". Ann Gould married
Louis-Michel-Hyppolite Theriault (1819-) as can be seen in Source 25.
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Descendants of Gould James Jr)
Source 2 asserts that "James GOULD married Sophie Penn and that he was the son of Lieutenant James Gould ( January 28,
1743-October 11, 1822) who fought in the battle of Saratoga. Private James Gould went to war with his father as a `waiter`.
At the Battle of Saratoga, his father survived two bullets."
Source 3 provides more details about the Battle of Saratoga.
Source 4 mentions Col. Arthur Goold, a loyalist from Halifax, who fought against Washington's armies in 1777. This Arthur Goold,
a member of the Council of Nova Scotia, was later private secretary to Lord William Campbell. The webmaster, David Cole,
initially thought that Arthur's son, James Gould, was the husband of Sophie Penn. He no longer believes
this to be the case. Perhaps these two Goulds were related?
Another, yet unexplored reference to Arthur Goold is:
NOBLE, ARTHUR – Volume III (1741-1770)
, Kingston, Ont., 1969), pp.219–24. New Eng. Hist. and Geneal. Register, XXIV (1870), 370. Rawlyk,
Yankees at Louisbourg, 126–27. William Goold, “Col. Arthur ...."
Source 5 is a link to Private James Gould on WikiTree Gould-2742 and contains a list of his ancestors. His
information is managed by Janine Barber. Source 6 is a link to his wife Sophia Penn on FamilySearch.org and it lists her
ancestors. Some of her information was provided by David Cole (davidcole3 at FamilySearch.org). Note that FamilySearch.org
is a free site, but you need to create a username and password to access it.
The mother of the younger James Gould (and the wife of Lieutenant James Gould) is Mary Lovejoy as seen in
Source 7 below. This source also cites her parents.
The family raised by John Payne and Lydia Tisdale (or Tisdall) including Sophie Payne is described in Source 11. Source 11
is the Murrant genealogy named after Thomas Murrant Sr who married Aurelia Payne (c1764-1846), a sister of Sophia Payne
(c1776-April 20, 1857).
The ancestors and descendants of Sophie PENN have been known to David Cole for many years, but knowledge of the
parents of her first husband, James GOULD, was unknown. Similarly, the ancestors and descendants of James GOULD
have been known to Janine
Barber and her parents and grandparents, but they were searching for information about Sophie PENN's origins.
Finally, the two family histories have been brought together, today, Dec 30, one of the last days of 2015. This
happened due to the preservation of the GOULD family bible and the perseverance of Janine Barber. In 2018, Janine Ruth Barber published (in Book 10 and Source 57 below) an article named Sophia (Payne) (Gould) Cummings: From Connecticut to Canada. Her article describes Sophia's descent from John TISDALE and his wife Sarah WALKER. It also describes Sophia's two husbands and her children with each husband. This article is very comprehensive and contains copious sources. For more information about this article in The Connecticut Nutmegger, see the website at http://www.csginc.org or contact the webmaster of this article # 108, David KC Cole.
A copy of page 200 of the Nutmegger article is shown below. At the top of the page, the children of Sophie Payne and James Gould are listed. Below them, the children of Sophie Payne and William Cummings are listed.
Family of James GOULD and Sophia PENN
Paul Delaney has provided the following information:
JAMES GOOLD, arrived in CB from USA; James Goold signed testimony to Hon David Mathews, 20 May 1797 (CB Misc Papers, RG1 326)
m?2. St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB, 21 July 1791 (witnesses: Mr Hiram Payne, Mrs Cossit). In Source 2, at the WorldConnect web-site,
David Cole incorrectly identifies James Goold Jr (1765-1844) as Michael James Gould. This has yet to be corrected.
SOPHIA PAYNE (John & Lydia Tisdale); m2 c1804 William COMMONS
a. Susannah, bp St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB 16 May 1793 (sponsors: Mrs Hiram Payne, Mrs Ann Peters, Miss Anne Peters); m St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB 11 Dec 1810 James Frederick BOUTELIER (Frederick Nicholas & Anna Barbara Hirtle)
Rc Baddeck 1818, I ch
1820, James Boutelier, 25, b NS, 5 yrs CB, petitions for land at Baddeck abandoned by Peck
b. Anne, bp St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB, 27 August 1797 (Sponsors: Tisdale Payne, Mr William Hill, Sophia Cossit for Laura Payne); m 10 Oct 1816 Hypolite THÉRIAULT (Louis & Anastasie Cormier)
c. William, bp St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB, 10 September 1798 (sponsors: George C Cossit, James Hill, Phebe Cossit, proxy for Benony Mun, John Pain, Lyda Pain); m 8 August 1813 Sophie BOUTELIER (Frederick Nicholas & Anna Barbara Hirtle). Among the heirs of Frederick Boutilier of Little Bras d’or was Sophia Goold, wife of William (letter of Phyllis Wagg, 5 Apr 1988).
d. Sophiah, bp St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB, 9 June 1803 (sponsors: Nathaniel Spenser, Mrs Laura Spenser); m St George’s Anglican Church, Sydney, CB, 4 November 1820 Thomas D ROBERT
Janine Barber has located the Baptism Records of this family at Source 36. The instructions are:
First, select the website shown in Source 10.
Second, select “Baptisms, marriages, and burials, 1785 - 1850“ This shows, page by page, the entries
recorded by Rev. Ranna Cossit. There are 145 images. Or Source 36 will take you directly there.
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Gould Penn Family Baptisms
Graves of William and Sophia nee Boutillier and William Gould
Karen Ward supplied the following photos with this note:
The notebooks I have in my room that were my mother's kept calling to me. I don't know if there are other pictures of gravestones from my parents traveling around cemeteries in New Hampshire but I happened upon these two photos. Also, several Leete related ones. Later in life she wished she'd had a better camera when they were taking these pictures but it was the best they had at the time.
I think I mentioned this before but..... her notes state that William and Sophia are buried next to each other in Pike, NH (see paragraph below the photos) in a cemetery off Rt. 25.
Most of where they explored is very rural and I remember her telling me about unpredictable hours for town halls, records destroyed by fires, dirt roads better for 4 wheel drive than their Chevy Caprice, overgrown, uncared for cemeteries, etc. It was quite an adventure for them.
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Sophia nee Boutillier Gould Tombstone
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William Gould Tombstone
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Haverhill Cemetery Gould Letter
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Haverhill Cemetery Gould Graves Map
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The letter and map (above) are from Robert J Rutherfold, the Sec/Treas. of the Haverhill Cemetery Commission. He has identified the exact locations of the graves of William Gould, his wife Sophia nee Boutellier and their daughter Ellen S. He also identified the exact locations of the graves of Phineas Gould and his wife Mary Jane and their son Simon S. Gould. He also copied onto the map, the inscriptions on these gravestones. The inscriptions that he wrote on the map are almost illegible, but they are shown below. The two gravestones shown above the map are those of William and his wife Sophia. We do not have a photo of the gravestone of the Phineas Gould family.
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Gould, Phineas, Mary Jane, SimonS grave inscriptions
Inscription: Phineas illegible 1769-1851
Mary Jane wife of Phineas ?-1862
Simon S son 1806-?
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Gould, William, Sophia grave inscriptions
Inscription: Ellen S ?-?, Sophia ?-?, William Gould ?-?
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Pike, New Hampshire
Wikipedia describes Pike, NH as follows:
Pike is a small unincorporated community within the town of Haverhill, New Hampshire, in the United States. It is located in western Grafton County, approximately 3 miles (5 km) east of the village of Haverhill, on Oliverian Brook. The village was named after Alonzo Pike, who produced sharpening stones and tool and cutter grinders from a local deposit of Bethlehem gneiss.[2]
New Hampshire Route 25 runs through the community, heading west to the nearby Connecticut River valley and east through Oliverian Notch to the southern foothills of the White Mountains.
Pike has a separate ZIP code (03780) from the rest of Haverhill. The Pike telephone exchange covers the southern half of the town of Haverhill, including Haverhill village, and extends east to include the village of Glencliff in the town of Warren.
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Pike, New Hampshire
Death of James Gould Jr
The date of the death of James Gould Jr is unknown. It must surely be after 1831 because he applied for a
pension in 1832 as shown in the image below. This is one of the images in Source 16.
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Pension Application by James Gould Jr. in 1832
Sophier nee Goold Roberts, daughter of James Gould Jr. and Sophie Paine
The article in Source 30 describes the Roberts and Goold families. One of the members of the Roberts family is
Thomas Dison Roberts, born Oct 25, 1789 in the County of Hampshire, Parish of Ringwood, House of
Moxford, England. He married Sophier Goold born July 4, 1800 at Little Birdeck, Cape Breton, Canada.
She was the daughter of James Goold Jr. and his wife Sophie nee Paine who was the daughter of Capt.
John Paine and Lydia Tisdall. In Cape Breton, in 2016, there is a community called Beddeck which is probably a
variant of the name "Birdeck". The webmaster is not surprised to see Sophia spelled as "Sophier". The webmaster's
paternal grandparents were born and raised in London, England where words rhyming with Sophia are
pronounced "Sophier". The final "a" is pronounced like "er". Many people in Cape Breton would not
know of this regional pronunciation and would record the name as they hear it.
The last page of Source 30 contains one descendancy from Thomas Goold (1639-?) down through Sophier Gould through
Stephan James Roberts to William John Meilland (1972-?) who is probably still alive at the time of writing this article 108 (in 2016).
The last page of Source 30 concludes with a list of its sources. A very small portion of the Roberts article is transcribed below:
"Thomas Dison Roberts and Sophier ([nee] Gould) Roberts were parents of twelve children; but of these, three died as babies; one was
scalded-one killed by a spinning wheel falling on it. Sophier ([nee] Gould) Roberts died January 16, 1876 at Fox Lake, Wisconsin
and Thomas Dison Roberts died September 23, 1886 at Fox Lake Wisconsin where both are buried."
The Roberts portion of this article contains a vivid account of the travels of Stephen James Roberts plus other anecdotes. The main link in Source 30
is a link to a searchable text file transcribed word for word from the article. The www link in Source 30 is a link to a pdf file
containing original images of all typewritten pages of the article. This second link is to guard against "link rot" (link-rot) which is a name for
hyper-text inks (URLs) that become invalid over time. This is usually due to the target URL (marked www) disappearing or becoming invalid when web-pages
are either changed, updated or deleted. The second link is a link to a copy of the article or portion of the article that has been archived to a second
location on the web. This second location is usually on the www.ePhotoCaption.com web site.
William Gould (c1798-1865), son of James Gould jr. and of Sophie Paine
Source 20 (WikiTree) shows that William Butter Gould lived to the age of 92 years. This source indicates that
his middle name or nickname is Butter. William lived to be 92. In Canada, he was a hunter and
fisherman. He was a carpenter in New Hampshire after moving his wife and family from Cape Breton
Island to Grafton County, New Hampshire. Source 23 shows that his wife was Sophia Magdalena Boutilier.
Their daughter, Hannah Gould, b. 1826 in Cape Breton Island,
remembered their journey from Nova Scotia to Uncle Phineas Gould's home. It was recorded in the
East Hartford Weekly Gazette, dated December 14, 1928.
Sophia Magdalena Boutilier was the daughter of Frederick Nicholas Boutilier (c1754-1779) and Anna Barbara
Hirtle (1758-After 1834) who lived in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, Canada. Their son, James Frederick Boutilier
(1784-1879) married Susan Gould (c1792-Before 1871) who is the sister of William Gould (c1798-1865). So,
these two children of a Gould family married two children of a Boutilier family.
Source 21 is a pdf containing references
to an image of the actual land grant application by William Gould. The image is shown below:
Page 187 of The History of Piermont, New Hampshire, 1764-1947 (Book 6) states
William Gould m. Ellen Boutelier, D. August 10, 1878. Her first name was Sophia, but the date may be accurate.
Because the marriage record and the official census records do not mention the middle name of Ellen, Ellen has
not been included as part of her name in this genealogy article. Other sources indicate that the date of their
marriage was 1813. Perhaps the "D." indicates that Sophia Magdalena Boutilier died on August 10, 1878.
James Gould (1840-?), son of a different William Gould
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l Baptism of James Gould in 1840
Shown above is the 1840 Baptism record of James Gould, son of William Gould. This record was found at
Ancestry.com in the Drouin Collection. It is filed there as James Gould's Birth: 23 Aug 1840, Baptism 1840 -
Quebec, Québec [26 Aug 1840]. It says that the mother of this James Gould was Margaret [illegible] wheras
the wife of Williaim Gould was Sophia Magdalena Boutilier. Therefore,
This James Gould is not the grandson of James Gould Jr. (c1775- After 1831).
transcription in French
? ? ? Campeau
B.544 James GOULD
Le vingt-six Aout mile huit-cent quarante
? prêtre, ? de Québec, soussigné, ?
sont baptisé James né le vingt-trois du cou-
rant, du légitime mariage de William
Gould, journalier, et de Margaret ?
?, de cette paroisse, Parrain ?
? ?, marraine Ellen Sills
? ? ? déclaré ? d'avoir signer
Le pêre absent
-------? Campeau, ptre
Ancestors of Henry Butter Gould (c1790-1908)
The pedigree of Henry Butter Gould is shown below:
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Pedigree of Henry Butter Gould (c1790-1908)
The middle name of "Butter" has been seen written as "Butler". Janine Barber suggests that this might
be an anglicized version of "Boutilier". For more information about the Boutilier connection refer to Source 23
and Source 24 below.
In Source 23, William Gould (b c1794) is reported to have married Sophia Magdalena Boutilier on 8 Aug 1813.
Yvette nee Richard Cole's descent from Sophie PENN
Sophie PENN was born in 1776 in Lebanon, Connecticut, USA. The descent of Yvette nee Richard Cole (this webmaster's wife) from
Sophie PENN can be seen at Source 25. Similar information can be found at Family Search (Source 6). Information about
living persons is restricted at both sites but the parents of Yvette are visible at both sites.
Note that the Family Search ID (FSID) is shown for Sophie PENN and some others in the descendancy listed below:
1 James Gould Sr. (1743-1822) FSID: MX7C-GJD
m Mary Lovejoy (c1741-1833)
2 James Gould Jr. (c1775 - After 1831) FSID: LRSC-X93
m Sophie PENN (1776-1857) FSID: KLL7-B6P
3 Anne Gould (1797-1836) FSID: K6H7-33F
m Louis-Michel-Hyppolite Theriault (1793-?) FSID: K6W2-4N6
4 Telesphore Theriault (1819-?)
m Vitaline Vigneau (1823-?)
5 Lydie (Ledee) Theriault (1847-?)
m Richard Delaney (1825-1878)
6 Julie Delaney (1877-1956) FSID: 9VZC-GNN
m Donat Richard (1875-1956)
7 Elphege Richard (1908-2004) FSID: KNWG-NC2
m Lydie Arseneault (1911-2004)
8 Yvette Richard (1944-living)
m David Cole (1944-living)
9 Theresa COLE (1970-living) FSID: LF5L-7BQ
Due to inter-marriages, a second descent also exists as shown below:
1 James GOULD Sr. (1743-1822) FSID: MX7C-GJD
m Mary LOVEJOY (c1741-1833)
2 James GOULD Jr. (c1775 - After 1831) FSID: LRSC-X93
m Sophie PENN (1776-1857) FSID: KLL7-B6P
3 Anne GOULD (1797-1836) FSID: K6H7-33F
m Louis-Michel-Hyppolite THERIAULT (1793-?) FSID: K6W2-4N6
4 Luce THERIAULT (1836-1922) FSID: KHX1-8RC
m Elie ARSENEAU (1823-)
5 Azade ARSENEAULT (1876-1959)
m Julienne-Ann THERIAULT (1882-1938)
6 Lydie ARSENEAULT (1911-2004) FSID: 9VZC-GR8
m Elphege RICHARD (1908-2004) FSID: KNWG-NC2
7 Yvette RICHARD (1944-living) FSID: LF5L-7Y1
m David COLE (1944-living)
8 Theresa COLE (1970-living) FSID: LF5L-7BQ
The parents of my wife, Yvette, were both born in Havre-aux-Maisons, les Iles-de-la-Madeleine, QC, Canada which is where
Sophie PENN died and was buried. Yvette's eldest sister, Blandine nee Richard Arseneault was also born in Havre-aux-Maisons. Lydie (Ledee) Theriault (1847-) in the first descent (above), is related to Docteur Patrick Peter Delaney (1852-1941) (Biography in Source 61), who was the member of the Quebec Legislative Assembly representing Madeleine Islands. He married Mary-Margaret-Josephine-Maria O'Brien in 1882. For more information see Source 60 below.
Surname Changes List: LOVEJOY to COLE
The webmaster occassionally uses a Surname Changes List (Descendancy of Surname Changes) from a single ancestor to a single one of his/her descendants. [An example is the direct descendancy list immediatly above, from Mary LOVEJOY to Theresa COLE. This above list of ancestors is sometimes called a "Direct Ancestor List". A new descendant surname appears each time a direct female ancestor marries a direct male ancestor e.g. when Anne GOULD marries Louis-Michel-Hyppolite THEREAULT. Each time a Direct male ancestor marries, the surnames of the offspring do not change. The surname only changes when a direct female ancestor is married. A surname is only added to the Surname Changes List when a direct female ancestor marries and has children. If every second direct ancestor is male, then the surname never changes; therefore such a Surname Changes List only contains one surname. Minor differences in spellings of surnames should be amalgamated in the list eg Arseneau and Arseneault. Of course, due to intermarriages, more than one different Surname Changes List can exist.
Surname Changes List: LOVEJOY to COLE
LOVEJOY
GOULD
THERIAULT
ARSENEAULT
RICHARD
COLE
The above Surname Changes List might be read aloud as follows. A female LOVEJOY married a GOULD; after one or more generations a female GOULD descendant married a THERIAULT; eventually another female decendant married an ARSENEAULT; eventually one married a THERIAULT; eventually one married a RICHARD; finally one married a COLE.
Each time a direct female ancestor marries, her surname is lost because her children's surname is not the same as her maiden name, their surnames might be said to "change". If a child asks for a list of all the family name changes from a specific direct ancestor down to the child, the exact concise answer is the Surname Changes List. In the past, a female descendant of a long list of members of an important family might "marry into" another important family in order to merge their two coats of arms into a single "more important" coat of arms. The webmaster does not know the details of such merges. However the two merged surnames would certainly appear one directly above the other in the Surname Change List.
Baptism of children of Sophia nee Penn Commons
The following document (of unknown source) was sent to me by Janine Barber with the following note:
Also, Elise, a translator from the Seattle area, has dug further into Sophia Pain's story and discovered she
adopted some children before remarrying -- to William Commons.
What a compassionate woman! Can you help translate this -- either into English, or -- culturally, under
what circumstances would a woman adopt two kids, near or around the War of 1812? Could they be
family? Was she wealthy?
My study and translation of this document finds no evidence to indicate that these children were adopted
by Sophie Penn. Futhermore, this document indicates that these two children, Jacques and Maria, are both
children of William Commons and Sophie Penn. It is strange that the document states "tous deux fils" which
means "both being sons of". I would have expected it to read "tous deux enfants de" which means "both
being children of". In 1811, many were baptised during the pastoral visit to Madeleine Islands (Book 3) of
Mgr. Joseph-Octave Plessis, Bishop of Quebec who apparently signed this document.
Document (in French):
Le vingt-trois juin mil-huit-cent-onze ?? sous-Évêque de Québec sousigné ont été baptisée et confirmés, Jacques né au
cap Breton le sept de juin mil-huit-cent-sept et sous condition ? (ayant déjà été envoyée) Maria née le sept ? mil huit-cent-cinq
au même lieu tous deux fils de Guillaume Commons journalier et de Sophie Penn. Le parrain et la marraine de
Jacques ont été Marcel Arsenault et Marie Bourgeois. Le parrain et la marraine de Maria ont été Jean Edmonds Vignau et
? ? les quels ont déclaré ??? la mère seule ayant signé avec nous.
[signé]
Sophia Commons
Mgr. J.O. Plessis de Quebec
? aux Iles de la Madeleine, juin 1811
Document (in English):
June 23, 1811 ?? under-Bishop of Quebec, whose signature appears below, baptised and confirmed, Jacques, born
in Cape Breton June 7, 1807 and under condition ? (having already been sent) Maria, born ? 7 1805 at the same location,
both being sons of William Commons, laborer, and of Sophie Penn. The godfather and godmother of Jacques were Marcel
Arsenault and Marie Bourgeois. The godfather and the godmother of Maria were Jean Edmonds Vignau and ? ?.
these declared ??? the mother alone having signed with us.
[Signed]
Sophia Commons
Mgr. J.O. Plessis de Quebec
? at Madeleine Islands, June 1811
Sainte-Madeleine de Havre-aux-Maisons
Between 1898 and 1973, Sainte-Madeleine de Havre-aux-Maisons was the church for the island of Havre-aux-Maisons. It was
built in 1898 and burnt down in 1973 (Source 8). Lydie Arseneault, the mother of Yvette Richard grew up in the farmhouse south of the rectory of the
church. The photo below shows the church. Proceeding south, behind the church is the convent associated with the church. Behind the convent
was the rectory and behind the rectory was the farmhouse of Azade Areneault (1876-1959), the grandfather of Yvette nee
Richard Cole. The convent is to the left of the church in the photo below. The rectory and Azade's farmhouse do not appear
in the photo. The photo below is looking south east. The webmaster and his wife, Yvette, visited the convent and recently
stayed in Azade Arseneault's farmhouse for a 1 week period. As of 2015, the convent is being used as a restaurant and
inn.
Sophie PENN died in 1857, many years before this church was built.
Photos of Azade Arseneault, his house and the convent can be seen by searching for "Azade" at the webmaster's photo
gallery site (Source 9) at:
iGalri.com
Old Baptisms, Marriages, Burials in Sydney
Source 10 provides these photocopies of events of members of the Payne family:
Photo 14 page 18: June 1, 1789: John & Lydia Pain baptise William and George Pain;
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Sydney Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1785-1850 p18
Transcription of actual text is:
William Pain born 28th July 1786 and
George Pain born 19th day of January 1789
both sons of Mr John Pain and his wife
Lydia were baptised on the 1st day of June
1789 by me Ranna Cossit.
Note that the long-s was still being written by the clerk. This can easily be verified by examining the script of the first "s"
of the name Cossit above (or the word Spinster on the facing page). The long-s was being phased out in the latter part of the 1700s.
In Source 43, Janine Barber explains how to search for Nova Scotia baptism records at the FamilySearch web-site. The particular
example cited shows how to look up the baptism record for George Payne (bp Jan 19, 1789 in Sydney, NS, Canada). The clergyman
performing this baptism was Rev. Renee Cossit. More information about Renee Cossit can be found at Source 44.
Photo 21 page 32 of collection named "Baptisms, marriages, burials 1785-1850" in Source 10:
July 21,1791: the marriage of James Gold and Sophie Payne. Hiram Payne attended the marriage as a witness.
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Sydney Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1785-1850 p32
Transcription of actual text is:
[July 1791 is inferred from preceding recorded events]
21st Married James Gold & Sophia Payne
Mr. Hiram Payne
Mrs Cossit-- Witnesses
Photo 46 page 78: Sept 10, 1798: William, son of James Gold, is baptised in 1798.
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Sydney Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1785-1850 p78
Transcription of actual text is:
Sept. 10th 1798
Then baptised William son of James Gold
George G. Cossit proxy for Binny Mon(sp)
James Hill(sp) proxy for John Pain
Phebe Cossit proxy for Lydia Pain [+ illegible]
The Ancestors of Sophia Penn (1776-1857)
The ancestors of Sophia Penn (aka Sophie Payne) (FSID: KLL7-B6P) have been known for a long time. They are accurately shown in the following pedigree chart from the FamilySearch web-site. They are described in more detail below.
Joseph Payne (1695-1767) m Anne Babcock (1701-1776) (FSID: GFF8-XYT)
Their descendancy to Sophie Payne is shown in the above tree, on the right.
I believe that Joseph Payne (Source 29) and Anne Babcock were ancestors of Sophie Payne. When adding them to FamilySearch, I was tempted to
merge Joseph Paine of Milton (FSID:KPDL-JWV) who married Mary Babcock (FSID:KPDL-JWV) with "my" Joseph Payne (FSID:MG5L-NRB)
who married Anne Babcock (FSID:L28F-2W8) but did not because the families with these wives were comprised of different children. The
other Joseph Paine was initially loaded by FamilySearch based upon his
marriage record to Ann Babcock (FSID: LHFD-V9M) on 26 FEB 1723. Since then, Paul Gordon has added a wife named Mary Babcock
whom he indicates was married on that same date but provides no record source. Instead of merging, I
added the following message in the Life Sketch of "my" Joseph Payne:
This Joseph Payne [FSID:MG5L-NRB]
is NOT the same as Joseph Paine of Milton (KPDL-JWV). Although the parents are the same. These 2 persons
must not be merged without examining the source info and removing the contradictory information which is wrong.
Wife Mary Babcock is not the same as wife Anna Babcock., nor are the children. [Ed. Weaver in Source 52 differentiates between these two
men named Joseph Pain].
To further complicate matters, Anna Babcock (FSID: LHFD-V9M) is also said to have married Elder Joseph Clarke III ( FSID:
LJV8-271 ). This marriage may have occurred in 1717 at Westerly, Washington, RI, USA. This predates her marriage to Joseph Paine
and is not contradictory because Elder Joseph Clarke III died in 1719.
When David Cole added marriage information, it replaced original information that FamilySearch had already posted. An image of
the original FamilySearch marriage record (Anne Babcock m Joseph Paine) at FamilySearch taken on 3 May 2012 is shown below:
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Marriage Record: Joseph Paine m Anne Babcock
Source 51 also mentions the marriage of Ann Badcock to Joseph Pain on 26 February 1724. On the same page we see her cousin, Mary
Badcock marrying a different Joseph Pain said to be of Milton. The two brief entries in Source 51 ( The family of Badcock of Massachusetts) are reprinted below:
. . . . . 15. IV. JAMES BADCOCK, born at Milton 28 March, 1677; married 18 February, 1701, Mary Fenno of Milton; moved in 1702 to Windham,
Conn., where most of his children were born; died at Coventry in 1740. An account of his descendants may be read on p55 of Weaver's "History and
Genealogy of Ancient Windham" ( Book 9 ). [Ed. Source 52 is page (p55) of Book 9 where we can see an account of the life of James Babcock
(1677-1740). Karen Sims concludes that Mary Fenno cannot be the wife of his eldest son.]
Child, born at Milton:
. . . . . i. Ann, b. 8 March, 1702; m. 26 February, 1724, Joseph Pain.
lower on the same page:
. . . . . 18. IV. NATHANIEL BADCOCK, born at Milton 16 December, 1684; married 3 May, 1710, Mary Field of Dorchester; [Ed. he ] died 22 January,
1719; she died 3 December, 1759. Children, born at Milton:
. . . . . i. Mary, b. 19 July, 1711; m. 27 January, 1732, Joseph Pain of Milton.
. . . . ii. Ann, b. 19 March, 1713; d. 13 April, 1732
. . . iii. Ebenezer, b. 25 Mary, 1715; d. 13 March, 1760
. . . iv. George, b. 10 November, 1716
. . . v. Nathaniel, b. 2 July, 1719, posthumous. 29
John Payne (1725-?) m Jemima Hutchinson (1730-1775)
John Payne married Jemima Hutchinson in Coventry, CT on May 7, 1747. They had 4 children: Jemima, John Jr, Lemuel and Hiram.
John Payne Jr married Lydia Tisdale and were the grandparents of Sophie Payne who married James Gould Jr. in 1791. Hiram Payne
(1763-1845) married Chloe Thayer (1774-1871) on Oct 17 1797.
The Vital Records at Coventry, VT [from pg 156 COVENTRY RECORDS, Source 39] list the following marriages:
John Payn and Jemima Hutherson, m. May 7, 1947
Stephen Payn, of Coventry, and Rebeckah Bushnell,
daughter of Nathan Bushnell, of Lebanon, m. September 23, 1756
Stehen Payne and Harriet L. Coan, both of Coventry, m. November 29, 1838
Coventy Records also list the following births:
PAYN.
Children of John and Jemima (Huthenson) Payn.
Jemima, b. February 1, 1747-48
John, b. April 13, 1751
Lemuel, b. March 18, 1755
Children of Stephen and Rebeckah (Bushmal) Payn.
Sarah, b. May 20, 1758
Rebeckah, b. May 20, 1760
Ebenezer, b. September 27, 1762
Allin, b. March 31, 1765
Tilla, b. November 1, 1767
Source 39 (Book 7) is Births, Marriages, Baptisms and Deaths from the Records of the Town and Churches of Coventry Connecticut 1711-1844 Copied
From the Records by Susan Whitney Dimock
printed for private distribution New York The Baker & Taylor Company 1897.
It should be noted that Hiram Payne was not listed as a son of John Payne and Jemima Huthenson in this source. But Hiram Payne is shown in the
Descendancy Chart below from the FamilySearch site. Source 37 (Alumni of Dartmouth College) proves that Hiram is one of their sons.
Karen Sims found in Source 41 that a Jemima Payne married Israel Smith in 1771. Presumably this Jemima Payn is the daughter of John and
Jemima (Huthenson) Payn.
A descendancy chart for John Payne (1725-) is available from FamilySearch (Source 45). Go to Source 45 for the most up-to-date and complete information.
A short version of it (as of Aug 7, 2016) is shown below:
Descendancy of John Payne (1725-?) and Jemima Hutchinson (1730-1775)
Hiram was graduated from Dartmouth College in 1787 as can be seen
in Source 37 which was discovered for us by Karen Sims. An early post from Karen Sims about Hiram Payne appears in Source 46. Another later post from Karen Sims asking about Hiram Payne is shown below:
Hiram Payne Lebanon Ct, Hanover NH, Cape Breton Nova Scotia, PA, Lyons & Palmyra NY
ksims37 (View posts)
Posted: 23 Mar 2010 4:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Payne, Paine, Thayer, Tisdale, Hutchinson
Are their any descendants of Hiram Payne who can shed some light on his brother's John and Lemuel? -
From: Dartmouth Alumni 1787 (Source 37) we find:
"Hiram Payne, A. M. the son of John(1) and Jemima (Hutchinson) Payne, was born at Andover, Ct, in 1763, and died at Palmyra, N. Y.
Mar. 22, 1845, Age. 82. He early went to the island of Cape Breton ; after 8 years returned to Hanover; then lived in Pennsylvania
engaged in land business; was next at Lyons, N. Y. a merchant; and at length removed to Palmyra. He married Chloe Thayer." --
Hiram's birth is recorded in Barbour (Source ?) as 15 Jan 1763. This is the only birth of a child of John recorded on this page of the records,
but the same page records the children of Joseph Payne Jr and Elizabeth Sims (who are also mentioned in WorldConnect: Source 40 [of
whom perhaps
Karen Sims is a descendant]). Other family trees record Joseph Jr as a brother of John (1). --
A quick Google search finds that Hiram was hired as the first schoolmaster in Sydney, Cape Breton, in 1790. --
John Payne (1) and Jemima Hutchinson also have 3 children recorded in Coventry CT:
Jemima, 1 Feb 1748;
John (2), 13 Apr 1751;
Lemuel, 28 Mar 1755; -- there may be more children recorded in another town, 1755 to 1763 is a large gap.
John (1) and Jemimah are probably members of the Andover Religious Society which covered part of 3 Connecticut towns.
--
John Payne (2) is supposed to be the John Payne who married Lydia Tisdale, 7 May 1775, in Lebanon CT (marriage not in Barbour [Source ?] but is
in the reprint edition of Bailey [source ?] ) and ended up in Cow Bay, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. --
I have tracked John Payne Sr, John Payne Jr and Lemuel to Hartford, Vermont and Hanover, NH, where John Payne Sr is an innkeeper, but had been unable to connect John (2) with Cape Breton.
This record for Hiram does indicate that the Hanover to Cape Breton connection exists.
-end of post about Hirem Payne by Karen Sims.
In 1772 John Payne Sr. built an Inn in Hanover NH, next to Dartmouth
College
Both John Payne Sr and John Payne Jr were surveyors and laid out the
plots for many NH towns. They were paid in land, (one plot in each town
they surveyed) and when property taxes were instituted after the war,
they lost most of it to back taxes (seems rather unfair)
John Payne JR was not a loyalist - he served as a Lieutenant in the
revolutionary war. In 1820 he returned to the US and applied for a
revolutionary war pension. image attached. Last known address was
Castleton, Staten Island, New York. Died 11 Mar 1825. There is a woman,
Ester, who collected a widow's pension based on John Jr's pension, but
I personally believe she was a fraud.
Referring to the above post by Karen Sims, on July 26, 2016 Janine Barber wrote:
July 26, 2016
Fred G. Cox, Compiler, The Illustrated Historical Souvenir of Bethel, Vermont, Containing a Brief History of the Early Settlement of the
Town, the Schools, Churches, Medical, and Legal Professions, Old Families, Business and Manufacturing Interests, Together with Portraits and Biographies of the Citizens, Past and Present (Bethel, Vermont), 1895, n6; n12.
Citizens of Bethel, Vermont , accessed 26 July 2016. [This book can be viewed on-line at Source 38. ]
On 29 December, 1777, in Hanover, New Hampshire, eighteen men signed Articles of Agreement for Bethel, Vermont, “…claimed to be the
first town in Windsor County chartered by the State of Vermont.” Four Paynes signed: John Payne, Lemuel Payne, Samuel Payne, and
John Payne, Jr.
John Payne, Jr, is listed in the VT Early Census Index in the year 1778 as residing at Bethel, in Windsor County, Vermont.
I am seeking permission to reprint a portion of the biographical summary of Renee Cossitt, as created by…
Mason Wade’s [Source ?] excellent article regarding Rev. Renee Cossitt
while researching my family line,
John Payne Jr m Lydia Tisdale (1745-)
John Payne Jr. fought for the American side in the Revolutionary War. When he applied for War Pension benefits, he described his
service record as follows:
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John Payne Jr`s War Pension Application
Thanks to Karen Sims for the above document. For some of this data, her source is Source 41 below. A searchable text version of ther email can be found
at Source 47.
In Karen Sims' email (Source 47), she lists the death date for John Payne (1751-1825) who married Lydia Tisdale. A reference to this death date is
in Source 55.
Another source of a different death date for John Payne who married Lydia Tisdale is Source 53 on a web-site created by Roy Murrant. (Roy Murrant
can be found by viewing Source 54.) Source 53 says:
JOHN PAYNE
was born April 13, 1751 in Coventry, Tolland, Connecticut, and died July 25, 1814 in the Madeleine Islands [Ed. in Quebec, Canada]. He
married LYDIA TISDALE May 17, 1775 in the First Congregational Church, Lebanon Conn. [USA]
John was probably Captain John Payne. He left the USA and moved to Cape Breton in 1788 and settled in Cow Bay, Cape Breton .
He moved frequently, possibly the result of his occupation. He was in the Madeleine Islands in 1802, Ingonish in 1811 and he witnessed
the second marriage of his daughter Sophia to William Commons in the Catholic Church in the Madeleines in 1814. He probably died there.
Correspondence would seem to indicate that he was a boat builder, a mast builder or had a skill related to the marine industry. He was
apparently unhappy with his relocation to Cape Breton, likely a "reluctant loyalist". One can speculate that he had a trade valuable to the
British and was forced to relocate to Cow Bay to aid war efforts.
Lydia Tisdale and John Payne Jr. were the parents of Sophia Penn (sometimes spelled Payne or Paine) who married James Gould Jr.
on 21 JUL 1791 in Saint George church, Sydney, Cape Breton, N.B., Canada.
Donna Baron of the Lebanon Historical Society has provided the following information about Lydia Tisdale:
From: Donna Baron (dbaron at historyoflebanon.org)
To: jbarberf
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 8:10 am
Subject: request for Tisdale - Pain (payne) family information
Thank you for contacting the Lebanon Historical Society regarding your Tisdale & Payne ancestors. I am happy to try
and find a birth record for Sophia Pain, but as I began to see what information we had already pulled for these families,
I found the following
WINDHAM PROBATE RECORDS Special Vol 5 Page 217
John Payne of Hartford in the County of Windsor State of Vermont (so called)
in his own and the behalf of Lydia his wife who is sister to Mr. Nathan Tisdale
late of said Lebanon dec.
dated Sept 28, 1787
See Early Conn Marriages by F. Bailey
Lydia Tisdale (the dau of Ebenezer Tisdale) m John Pain May 7, 1775
First Cong. Church
This probate record indicates that at the time of her brother Nathan (a very well known school teacher) death in 1787 Lydia [Tisdale] Pain and her family were living in Hartford, Vermont.
Lydia Tisdale, daughter of Ebenezer and Hope and named for an older sister Lydia who died as an infant was baptized March 19, 1749. Her sister had been baptized February 14, 1742
Although I can find a record of John & Lydia's marriage in Lebanon Vital Records and in her home church records, , I do
not see any children's births listed and Sophia was not baptized here. Other than his marriage, I cannot find any
definitive information about John Payne. He might be the son of Joseph and Anna Payne (born April 26, 1725 )
[Windham Vital records, book A, page 81] who lived in Lebanon's north or Crank ecclesiastical society. If this is
the case there might be records available at the Columbia, CT Congregational Church or from the Columbia town
historian. In 1804, the Crank Society became the modern town of Columbia, CT.
This leads me to wonder if John and Lydia moved to Vermont shortly after their marriage. The only way to explore that from here will be to look at land records to see if they sold property in Lebanon. If you would like to have us do that, or to have look through the manuscript vital and church records to see if Sophia's birth was over-looked when the Barbour transcriptions were done, I will direct you to the genealogy page on our web site. Our volunteer genealogist is very capable and very generous with her time. She requests that you make a $50 donation to the Historical Society in addition to paying $0.50 for copies of records.
You might want to contact the Hartford, VT historical society http://www.hartfordhistory.org before we undertake what may or may not reveal any information that is useful to you.
Please do contact us if you'd like us to search land records for you, but, I recommend you see if there is more information to be found in Hartford, CT
--
Donna K. Baron
Museum Director
Lebanon Historical Society
located at 856 Trumbull Highway
PO Box 151
Lebanon, CT06249
860-642-6579 - fax 860-642-6583
Lydia Tisdale and Benjamin Franklin have a common ancestor named Peter Folger (c1617-c1689). His descendants including both Lydia Tisdale
and Benjamin Franklin can be seen at Source 18. Lydia is at descendant level 5 and Benjamin is at descendant level 3. At descendant level 10
there is a person named Thomas Joseph COLE (c1860-), not related to the webmaster, see Source 19. At the FamilySearch site, there is someone of the same name,
Thomas Joseph COLE (1856-1930)
who is probably the same person.
Two Different Persons: Sophie Penn and Sophie Peine
To distinguish between two female individuals named alike (i.e. Sophie Peine and Sophie Penn), Dennis Boudreau
[a priest and renowned genealogist] writes:
This Sophie Peine is not to be confused with [Sophie Penn] the wife of William Cummings [after her marriage to
James Gould]. This second bride of Benoni
Arseneault [Sophie Peine] was found as a six month old child on the beach after a shipwreck at the Islands towards
1815. She was raised at Havre-aux-Maisons. (See Book 1: Harvey, Azade. CONTES ET LEGENDES DES ILES-DE-LA-MADELEINE, Vol. 3,
1977, pp 70-71).
Source 17, by R. Murrant, describes the family of John Payne and Lydia Tisdall, who are the parents of Sophia Payne. His sources
include the "Dictionaire La Nobless Francais" and "Norman People".
Sophie Payne (1776-1857)
The Acadian Genealogy Exchange, Volumes 18-20 pp 54,55 (Source 32) begins with the following text:
SOPHIE PAYNE (PENN) OF THE MADELEINE ISLANDS: NEW FINDINGS
Note to the Readers: The following information concerning the ancestress
Sophie PAYNE (PENN) of the Madeleine Islands, Quebec, was sent to me very
recently by Mr. Paul Delaney, who personally researched the accompanying
iinformation with the assistance of Margaret Talbot of the New England
Historic Genealogical Society of Boston. MA. Mr. Delaney, a direct . . . . .
It is, of course, this same Paul Delaney who is contributing to this Article 108. Because copyright
has not yet expired for the Acadian Gen. Exch. book, only a small portion of the text is available without
either purchasing this book or requesting shared access to it.
Sophia PENN at the FamilySearch.org website
On June 14, 2018, the webmaster of this site visited the FamilySearch website and looked up Sophia PENN (FSID: KLL7-B6P in Source 6) , the wife of James GOULD Jr. (FSID: LRSC-X93). He noticed that her second husband, William CUMMINGS (FSID: GMTT-1KV), had not yet been added. Before adding any information one must check to see if the "new person" already exists at FamilySearch. To his surprise, another Sophie Paine Pern Penn had been added just days prior. This new Sophie Paine (FSID: KLL7-B6P in Source 56) was married to William CUMMINGS. This "new" unattached family line had been added by Guy CUMMINGS. It included no ancestors other than the parents of Sophie and William. It also included a narrow descendant line down to living persons. All verifiable persons matched existing information. The webmaster of this page has attempted to contact Guy CUMMINGS to share data and he has also notified Janine Barber of these recently discovered "cousins". Of course, these two Sophia PENN individuals should be merged when the "authors" of these two lines confirm the match.
Handwritten Tree: Gould and Leete Lines
This handwritten tree was scanned in two images, but the information is quite clear. It seems
to contain an error concerning the wfe of James Gould Jr (1765-1844/5) whose name is Sophie Payne not Mary Payne.
Note the reference to Gov. Leete (1613-1683) who is shown to have married Anne Payne. It is unknown
whether this Anne Payne is related to Sophie Payne, but any relationship is improbable.
Anne Payne, wife of Gov. Leete (1613-1683) and daughter of Rev. John Payne (?-20 Sept 1635 in Southhoe, Huntington Co., England),
was born in England. Sophie Payne (1776-1857) is a descendant
of Stephan Payne (1626-1691) and his wife Hannah Bass whom he married in Braintree, Norfolk Co., MA, USA. Stephan Payne
(7 May 1626 in Tenterden, , Kent, England - 29 jul 1691 Braintree, Norfolk Co., MA, USA) arrived
in MA about 1649 and became a freeman in 1653. Another source says that he immigrated in 1638. Huntington is 90 km north of
London and Tenterden is 70 km southeast of London. These very distant cities make a common ancestry improbable.
Source 27 contains a reference to an Anna Payne (b. c1621) who
married Gov. William Leete. Source 27 is a WorldConnect database named "barnardrupert" prepared by Rupert Young. The
reference to Anna Payne is by Patrick A. Payne (papayne@atl.mediaone.net) whose email address is no longer in use. As of Apr 2, 2020, Source 63 does refer to Patrick A. Payne at this website, but the Anna Payne (1621-) is not mentioned.
Rupert Young has no recent contact information for Patrick A. Payne. This is unfortunate because Patrick A. Payne
seems to have done considerable research on Anna Payne (b. 1621 in Southoe, Hunts, Eng.) There is an Anne Payne (1616-1668)
daughter of a Rev John Payne (1595-1635)
who married a William LEETE (1613-1683). She is found at Ancestry.org, Source 58. Her ancestors have a surname of Pinney (not Payne).
Source 27 refers to the original WorldConnect database that was damaged and is now unreachable. However Ancestry has rebuilt a version of the WorldConnect database. In the rebuilt version of the WorldConnect database, Source 62 , the Warder Family Tree (37), refers to Anna Payne (1621-1668) who married William Leete (c1612-1583). This Anna Payne is the daughter of John Payne or Pinney and Anne Underhill. It is unclear why William Leete (c1612-1583) is also referenced as Wm Logan LEETE. One would think that the name of a Governor of Connecticut would be known with certainty.
Note that the handwritten pedigree is "reflected" at the right margin (to save paper). Thomas Gould (1667/8-1732) is the father of
Nehemiah Gould (1716-1758), not his brother. Similarly,
Benjamin Leete (1686-1741) is the father of Asa Leete (1726-?) not her brother.
Janine Barber has uploaded the information about Frank Charles Gould (c1861-1936) to WikiTree: here
Source 28 provides a link to the FamilySearch pedigree of Charles Gould and Ada May Merrill (whose mother was Mary Jane Leete).
Clicking on the "www" link of Source 28
will take you to this pedigree at the FamilySearch site (where you will be asked to sign in with a username and password which you can set
up for free). Clicking on the
"FamilySearch: Charlie Frank Gould (1865-1936)" link of Source 28 will show you an image of the same pedigree without requiring you to sign in. Of
course, both contain similar information as on the handwritten tree shown above. The advantage of the tree at the FamilySearch site
is that it contains much more information which should also be more complete. Living persons are not displayed at the FamilySearch site.
The disadvantage of this information being at the FamilySearch site is that anyone in the world can change or delete it.
The above handwritten tree on the right contains the following note mentioning the names of the parents of Gov. William Leete:
"Gov. Leete came to Guilford, Conn. in 1639. He was son of John and Ann (Snute) Leete, born 1612-13 in Dedington, England,
educated in law at Cambridge."
An image (as of Jan 31, 2016) of the FamilySearch pedigree of F.C. Gould and his wife Ada May Merrill is shown below:
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FS Pedigree of Charlie Frank Gould (1865-1936) and his wife
Grave of F.C. Gould (1865-1936)
An image of the grave stone of Frank Charles Gould (aka F C Gould and Charles Frank Gould) can be seen at Source 33. This source
identifies his wife as being Ada May [nee Merrill] Gould (1867-1930) with whom his children were:
See Source 33: FindAGrave: "Frank Charles Gould" FSID: L28Z-YHR m Ada M. Merrill FSID: MXTR-5DL
- Arthur I. Gould (1887-1960)
- Hesper L. [nee Gould] Simmons (1890-1973)
- [Helen [nee Gould] May (1900-c1972) ]
The graves of all four appear in the FindAGrave website. Frank Charles Gould was buried in Center Cemetery in East Hartford,
Harford County, Connecticut, USA. This website links to the grave of the first wife of Arthur I. Gould named [Gerda Charlotte Johnson]
(? - Nov 30 1969). It also links to their son named Earle Frank Gould (1917-2011), his wife, Evelyn Bengtson, and her parents.
A Barber Family Gedcom in the possession of Janine Barber cites a third child Helen [nee Gould] May who has been added to the above list.
St. George's Anglican Church in Sydney, Nova Scotia
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St. George's Anglican Church in Sydney, Nova Scotia
St. George's Anglican Church is where Sophia Pain and James Gould were married.
This little church was built in 1790 for use as a garrison chapel for troops and residents in the Sydney area. Due to major deterioration of the stone walls, it was entirely rebuilt in 1859. An interesting, though not authenticated, feature is The Bishop's Chair. It is said that it came from the wardroom of the HMS Victory and it serves as a memento of the time Lord Nelson and his crew once attended service at St. George's.
More information is available from Rootsweb at Source 15.
St. Lawrence church in Bovington, Hertfordshire, UK
Thomas Gould (1455-before 1520), an ancient ancestor of James Gould, worshipped at St. Lawrence church in Bovington,
Hertfordshire, UK. He was born and died in Bovington, Hertfordshire, UK. The exact relationship can be seen at WikiTree
(Source 5). The first photo below is a photo of
St. Lawrence church. The second photo (from Google Maps) shows that Bovington is approximately 12 km west of
the city of St. Albans. Charles Percy Cole, the grandfather of the webmaster of this page grew up in Wheathampstead which is
approximately 10 km north-east of St. Albans. Both locations are marked with a yellow star on the map.
(To enlarge .....Click it)
St. Lawrence church in Bovington c1906
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Bovington, Hertfordshire UK
Jan's Ancestor: Reuben R Herriott (1807-1874)
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Reuben R Herriott's Death Record
Ray Harriot sent a photo of the death record to Jan in 2016 with the following note:
Jan –
In case you don’t have this… It’s Reuben Randolph Herriott’s (R. R. Herriott) death certificate from
1874 in Massachussetts. It states he was born in Broome, New York… and that his parents were
David and Rebecca. It does however state that his father David was born in Virginia which I believe is in error.
Ray
Line 76 of this death record indicates that R. R. Herriott died Aug 12, 1874 in Medford. The Barber family GEDCOM indicates that
he was born 11 Jul 1807 in Broome, New York.
Index of People Mentioned in this Article
List of People mentioned in Article 108 (as of 2020 D Apr 02)
This is a list of persons (and their spouses) who are mentioned in the body of Article 108 or in the images. It
omits most people named in the sources and in the many websites that this article links to.
(Please notify the webmaster of any errors or omissions.)
--------------------Person ---------------------- ------------------- Spouse ------------------
Family Given Birth Death Marr Family Given Birth Death
Name Names Date Date Date Name Names Date Date
ARSENEAULT Azade 1876 1959 1904 THERIAULT Julienne-Anna 1882 1938
ARSENEAULT Benoni PEINE Sophie 1815
ARSENEAULT Elie 1823 1851 THERIAULT Luce 1836 1922
ARSENEAULT Lydie 1911 2004 1935 RICHARD Elphege 1908 1986
ARSENEAULT Roch 1933 1985 1957 RICHARD Blandine 1935
BABCOCK Anna 1701 1776 1723 PAYNE Joseph 1695 1767
BABCOCK Mary 1711 ---- 1732 PAIN Joseph of Milton
BADCOCK Nathaniel 1684 1719 1710 FIELD Mary ---- 1759
BADCOCK James 1677 1740 1701 FENNO Mary
BADCOCK Ann 1702 ---- 1724 PAIN Joseph
BADCOCK Ann 1713 1732
BADCOCK Ebenezer 1715 1760
BADCOCK George 1716
BADCOCK Nathaniel 1719
BAILEY F.
BARBER Janine
BARBER John Randolph 1921 2016- SIMMONS Ruth J. 1921 2010+
BARON Donna K.
BASSETT Hope 1708 1761 1730 TISDALE Ebenezer 1707 1803
BENGTSON Evelyn 1921 2013 GOULD Earle Frank 1917 2011
BOUDREAU Dennis
BOUTILIER Frederick Nicholas 1754? 1779 HIRTLE Anna Barbara 1758 1834
BOUTILIER James Frederick 1784 1879 1810 GOULD Susanah 1793 1871
BOUTELIER Sophia Magdalena 1790? 1860? 1813 GOULD William Butter 1790 1865
BOUTILIER Victoria
BOWERS Esther 1715 1788 1737 GOULD Nehemiah 1715 1758
BOWERS Samuel 1688
BURGOYNE ? Gen.
BUSHNELL Nathan
BUSHNELL Rebeckah ---- ---- 1756 PAYN Stephan
CAMPBELL William Lord
CHAMPION Rachel LEETE Benjamin 1686 1741
CHILD Hamilton
CHITTENDEN Mary LEETE John 1639 1692
CILLEY ? Col.
CLARKE Joseph III Elder ---- ---- 1717 BABCOCK Anna 1701 1776
CLINTON ?
COAN Harriet L. ---- ---- 1838 PAYNE Stephen
COLE Charles Percy
COLE David 1944 1966 RICHARD Yvette 1944
COLE Thomas Joseph 1860
COLE Thomas Joseph 1856 1930
COMMONS William c1804 PAYNE Sophie 1766 1857
CORMIER Anastasie THERIAULT Louis
COSSIT George C.
COSSIT Phebe
COSSIT Ranna Rev. 1789-
COSSIT Sophia
CUMMINGS Anne
CUMMINGS Francois
CUMMINGS Guy
CUMMINGS Helene
CUMMINGS Jacques 1807
CUMMINGS Jean
CUMMINGS Maria 1805
CUMMINGS William
DEARBORN ? Maj.
DELANEY Julie 1877 1956 1900 RICHARD Donat 1875 1956
DELANEY Patrick Peter MD 1852 1941 1882 O`Brien Maria Joséphine
DELANEY Paul
DELANEY Richard 1825 1878 THERIAULT Lydie 1847
DIMOCK Susan W.
EMERSON Jonathon Lt.
FENNO Mary ---- ---- 1701 BADCOCK James 1677 1740
FIELD Mary 1684 1719 1710 BADCOCK Nathaniel ---- 1759
FOLGER Peter 1617 1689
FORD Mahala Amanda 1820 1885 GOULD Henry Butler 1790 1908
FRANKLIN Benjamin
FRAZER Simon Brig.
FRENCH Elizabeth 1643 GOULD Thomas 1639 1690
GORDON Paul
GOULD Anne 1797 1836 1816 THERIAULT Ls-M. Hypolite 1793
GOULD Arthur Ira 1887 1960 (1) JOHNSON Gerda Charlotte ---- 1969
GOULD Arthur Ira 1887 1960 (2) 1928 WARD Florence May 1897 1989
GOULD Benjamin Apthorp
GOULD Charlie Frank [2] 1865 1936 MERRILL Ada May 1867 1930
GOULD Earle Frank 1917 2011 BENGTSON Evelyn 1921 2013
GOULD Eddie Wesley 1863 1945
GOULD Ellen
GOULD Esther
GOULD Hannah 1826
GOULD Helen 1900 1970 MAY William George c1898 c1973
GOULD Henry Butler [1] 1820 1908 FORD Mahala Amanda 1820 1885
GOULD Hesper Lucina 1890 1973 SIMMONS Ray Clement 1886 1971
GOULD Hosea
GOULD James Sr. Lt. 1743 1822 LOVEJOY Mary 1747 1833?
GOULD James Jr. 1765 1844 1791 PAYNE Sophie 1776 1857
GOULD James 1840
GOULD John 1668
GOULD Jonas
GOULD Lizzie 1863 1900
GOULD Lydia
GOULD Mary Jane 1862
GOULD Meriah
GOULD Moriah
GOULD Mosiah
GOULD Nehemiah 1715+ 1758 1737 BOWERS Esther 1715 1788
GOULD Phinehas
GOULD Ralph Wait
GOULD Simeon
GOULD Simon S 1806
GOULD Sophiah 1803 1876 1820 ROBERTS Thomas Dison 1789 1886
GOULD Susanah 1793 1871- 1810 BOUTILIER James Frederick 1784 1879
GOULD Thomas 1455 1520-
GOULD Thomas 1613 1675 MILLER Hannah 1621 1647
GOULD Thomas Jr. 1667 1732 NEEDHAM Abigail 1671
GOULD Thomas Sr. 1639 1690 FRENCH Elizabeth 1643
GOULD William Butter 1790 1865 1813 BOUTELIER Sophia Magdalena 1790? 1860?
GOULD William Jr. 1823 1899
GOULD William ? Margaret
HAMILTON ? Brig.
HARRIOT Ray
HARVEY Azade
HENRY Bev
HERRIOTT David ? Rebecca
HERRIOTT Reuben R 1807 1874
HILL James 1798-
HILL William
HIRTLE Anna Barbara 1758 1834 BOUTILIER Frederick Nicholas 1754? 1779
HOWE Barzillal Lt.
HUTCHINSON Jemima 1730 1775 1747 PAYNE John 1725 ----
HUTHENSON Jemima
JACKMAN Sarah C. [3] 1820 1866 1838 LEETE Charles 1811 1877
JOHNSON Gerda Charlotte ---- 1969 GOULD
LANDRY Peter
LEETE Asa 1726 RAYNOR Hannah
LEETE Benjamin 1686 1741 CHAMPION Rachel
LEETE Benjamin 1753 1827 MEIGS Jane
LEETE Benjamin 1785 1848 RUSSELL Eunice B.
LEETE Charles 1811 1877 1838 JACKMAN Sarah C. [3] 1820 1866
LEETE John 1639 1692 CHITTENDEN Mary
LEETE John 1612 SNUTE Ann
LEETE Mary Jane 1841 1885 1864 MERRILL Charles 1844 1906
LEETE William Gov. 1613 1683 PAYNE Anne 1616 1668
LOVEJOY Mary 1747 1767+ GOULD James Sr 1743 1822
MACE Sarah [3] 1813 ---- 1838 LEETE Charles 1811 1877
MARTIN ? SIMMONS Roberta Lee 1919 1976
MATHEWS David
MAY William George c1898 c1973 GOULD Helen 1900 1970
MEIGS Jane LEETE Benjamin 1753 1827
MEILLAND William John 1972
MERRILL Ada May 1867 1930 GOULD Charlie Frank 1865 1936
MERRILL Charles 1844 1906 1864 LEETE Mary Jane 1841 1885
MERRILL Charles Keyes 1802 1866 1839 THRASHER Hannah 1811 1874
MILLER Hannah 1621 1647 GOULD Thomas 1613 1675
MOORE John Lt.
MURRANT R.
MURRANT Roy
MURRANT Thomas Sr. PAYNE Aurelia 1764 1846
NEEDHAM Abigail 1671 GOULD Thomas 1667 1732
NEEDHAM Anthony Jr 1628 1705 POTTER Ann 1632 1695
NEEDHAM Anthony Sr 1602 1647
NELSON ? Lord
NICHOLS Thomas P.
NOBLE Arthur 1710?
O`BRIEN Joséphine 1882 DELANEY Patrick Peter MD 1852 1941
PAIN George 1789
PAIN William 1786
PAIN Joseph 1702 ---- 1724 BADCOCK Ann
PAIN Joseph of Milton ---- ---- 1732 BABCOCK Mary 1711 ----
PAYNE Anna [4] 1621
PAYNE Anne [4] 1616 1668 LEETE William Gov. 1613 1683
PAYNE Aurelia 1764 1846 MURRANT Thomas Sr.
PAYNE Hiram 1763 1845 1797 THAYER Chloe 1774 1871
PAYNE Jemima 1747
PAYNE John [5] UNDERHILL Anne
PAYNE John Rev. 1595 1635
PAYNE John 1725 ---- 1747 HUTCHINSON Jemima 1730 1775
PAYNE John Jr. 1751 1825 1771 TISDALE Lydia 1749
PAYNE Joseph 1695 1767 1723 BABCOCK Anna 1701 1776
PAYNE Joseph Jr. SIMS Elizabeth
PAYNE Lemuel 1755
PAYNE Patrick A.
PAYNE Sophie 1776 1857 (1) 1791 GOULD James Jr 1765 1844
PAYNE Sophie 1766 1857 (2)c1804 COMMONS William
PAYNE Stephan 1626 1691 BASS Hannah
PAYN Stephan ---- ---- 1756 BUSHNELL Rebeckah
PAYNE Stephen ---- ---- 1838 COAN Harriet L.
PAYNE Tisdale
PECK ?
PETERS Ann
PETERS Anne
PEINE Sophie 1815 ARSENEAULT Benoni
PHILLIPS ? Maj. Gen.
PLESSIS Joseph Octave Bsh. 1811-
POTTER Ann 1632 1695 NEEDHAM Anthony Jr 1628 1705
POTTER Humphrey 1600 1641
RAYNOR Hannah LEETE Asa 1726
REID ? Col.
RIEDESEL ? Bar.
RICHARD Blandine 1935 ---- 1957 ARSENEAULT Roch 1933 1985
RICHARD Elphege 1908 1986 1935 ARSENEAULT Lydie 1911 2004
RICHARD Donat 1875 1956 1900 DELANEY Julie 1877 1956
RICHARD Yvette 1944 1966 COLE David 1944
ROBERTS Russell
ROBERTS Stephen James
ROBERTS Thomas Dison 1789 1886 1820 GOULD Sophiah 1803 1876
RUSSELL Eunice B. LEETE Benjamin 1785 1848
SCAMMELL ? Col.
SCOTT William Capt.
SEALY ? Col.
SIMMONS Ray Clement 1886 1971 GOULD Hesper Lucina 1890 1973
SIMMONS Clement 1916 1998
SIMMONS Hesper 1890 1973
SIMMONS Roberta Lee 1919 1976 MARTIN ?
SIMMONS Ruth J. 1921 2010+ BARBER John Randolph 1921 2016-
SIMS Karen
SNUTE Ann LEETE John 1612
SPENSER Laura
SPENSER Nathaniel
TALBOT Margaret
THAYER Chloe 1774 1871 1797 PAYNE Hiram 1763 1845
THERIAULT Louis CORMIER Anastasie
THERIAULT Ls-M. Hypolite 1793 1816 GOULD Anne 1797 1836
THERIAULT Luce 1836 1922 1851 ARSENEAULT Elie 1823
THERIAULT Lydie 1847 DELANEY Richard 1825 1878
THERIAULT Telesphore 1819 VIGNEAU Vitaline 1823
THRASHER Hannah 1811 1874 1839 MERRILL Charles Keyes 1802 1866
TISDALE Ebenezer 1707 1803 1730 BASSETT Hope 1708 1761
TISDALE John c1634 WALKER Sarah
TISDALE Lydia Died Young 1742
TISDALE Lydia 1749 ---- 1775 PAYNE John 1751 1825
TISDALE Nathan ---- 1787
TUCKER Sarah J. [3] 1840 1905 1874 LEETE Charles 1811 1877
UNDERHILL Anne PAYNE John [5]
VIGNAU Jean Edmonds
VIGNEAU Vitaline 1823 THERIAULT Telesphore 1819
WADE Mason
WAGG Phyllis
WAITT Jason Cpt.
WALKER Sarah c1634 TISDALE John
WALLS Herbert Arthur
WARD Florence May 1897 1989 1928 GOULD Arthur Ira 1887 1960
WEAVER William L.
YOUNG Rupert
[1] Henry B. Goold was born in 1820 not 1790
[2] Charlie Frank Gould aka F.C. Gould aka Frank Charles Gould
[3] The wife of Charles LEETE (Source 59) was Sarah C. JACKMAN (and Sarah J. TUCKER) not Sarah MACE
[4] Her name might be Anne or Anna
[5] His name might be John PINNEY
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External Sources:
Book Sources:
Book Source 01: Harvey, Azade. CONTES ET LEGENDES DES ILES-DE-LA-MADELEINE, Vol. 3, 1977, pp 70-71.
Book Source 02: Gould, Benjamin Apthorp. FAMILY OF ZACCHEUS GOULD OF TOPSFIELD, Pub by Thomas P. Nichols, 1895. (Source 49)
(Author is from Lynn, Mass., USA. The book is available through Higginson Books of Massachusetts;)
Book Source 03: Boudreau, Dennis M. LES MARIAGES DES ILES-DE-LA-MADELEINE, P.Q. (1794-1900), Pub 1980.
Book Source 04: Child, Hamilton GAZETTEER Grafton County, N.H. 1709-1886, Pub by Hamilton Child
Book Source 05: Walls, Herbert Arthur "The Gould-Walls Genealogy" in Vineland Historical Magazine v.34-36 (1950-1952)
pub: 01 Jan 1952, Repository: Family History Library 974.9 B2v v. 34-36
Book Source 06: Louise S. Horton, Elizabeth H. Underhill, and Eleanor D. Deal "The History of Piermont, New Hampshire, 1764-1947", ed. by , pub by the Green Mountain Press, Bradford, Vermont
Book Source 07: Births, Marriages, Baptisms and Deaths from the Records of the Town and Churches of Coventry Connecticut 1711-1844
printed for private distribution New York The Baker & Taylor Company 1897
Book Source 08: Landry, Peter. HISTORY OF NOVA SCOTIA: Book #1 Acadia (1604-1763) [The Lion and the Lily: Nova Scotia Between 1600-1760], Published by Trafford Publishing, 2007. ISBN: 1425154506 9781425154509
Book Source 09: Weaver, William L. HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF ANCIENT WINDHAM, Publisher: Weaver & Curtiss, 1864
Book Source 10: Barber, Janine Ruth CSG # 20572, Sophia (Payne) (Gould) Cummings: From Connecticut to Canada; The Connecticut Nutmegger, March 2018, Volume 50 Number 3, pp 194-207, Publisher: Connecticut Society of Genealogists Inc. ISSN 0045-8120 page 200 used with permission
Web Sources: (See Sources Note below)
Web Source S108:01: gbook
Google Books - The Granite Monthly: New Hampshire At Saratoga
p229 Lieutenant James Gould
Web Source S108:02:
www
WorldConnect - Michael James Gould in DB:davidcole3
see Post-Em note for an email describing the father of James Gould (c1775 - After 1831)
Web Source S108:03:
www
US History- The Battle of Saratoga
"It was the turning point in the Revolutionary War"
Web Source S108:04:
www
The American Revolution by Seth Noble, Maugerville
Arthur Gould ... from Halifax
Web Source S108:05:
www
WikiTree:Gould-2742 James Gould (1765-Before 1844)
husband of Sophia Payne (1766-1857)
Web Source S108:06:
www
FamilySearch: Sophia Payne (1766-1857)
wife of James Gould Jr.(1765-Before 1844)
Web Source S108:07:
www
Genealogy.com : Mary Lovejoy (1747-after 1767)
wife of James Gould Sr. (1742/3-1822)
Web Source S108:08:
www
Eglise Sainte-Madeleine de Havre-aux-Maisons
Church that burnt down in 1973.
Web Source S108:09:
www
iGalri.com -search for Azade
Photo Gallery by David Cole 2015.
Web Source S108:10:
www
FamilySearch: Records for Sydney, Cape Breton, NS, Canada
2015.
Web Source S108:11:
www
Payne married Tisdall: Family
From the Murrant Genealogy Site - 2015.
Web Source S108:12:
www
Parents of Lieutenant James Gould
Ancestry - 2015.
Web Source S108:13:
www
Ancestors of Lieutenant James Gould
WikiTree:Gould-495 - 2015.
Web Source S108:14:
www
Baptism of 2 children of Sophie Penn and William Commons
Found among papers of the Goulds.
Web Source S108:15:
www
Sketch and records from St. George's church in Sydney, N.S.
From Rootsweb by Frank W. Daniels.
Web Source S108:16:
www
List of genealogy files relating to James Gould Jr.
From: Jan Barber in 2015.
Web Source S108:17:
www
Family of Payne and Tisdall
Murrant Web Site: 2016.
Web Source S108:18:
www
WorldConnect: Peter Folger (c1617-c1689)
Descendants of Peter Folger: 2016.
Web Source S108:19:
www
WorldConnect: Thomas Joseph COLE (c1860-)
WC DB:davidcole3 - 2016.
Web Source S108:20:
www
WikiTree:Gould-2741 William Gould (1796-1865)
son of James Gould (1765-before 1844)
Web Source S108:21:
www
Land Grant by William Gould (1796-1865)
Cape Breton Land Grant (FHL Film 1,378,391. A)
Web Source S108:22:
www
WikiTree:Descendants of Gould-2742 James Gould (1765-Before1844)
image captured 2015 A Jan 27
Web Source S108:23:
www
Victoria Boutilier's Genealogy Pages
generated using GedHTree V2.70 in 2010
Web Source S108:24:
www
Victoria Boutilier's Tree with photos
at Rootsweb in 2007
Web Source S108:25:
www
WorldConnect: Ann Gould (1797-Before 1841)
in DB: davidcole3 in 2016
Web Source S108:26:
www
WikiTree: James Gould (1765-Before 1844)
managed by Janine Barber in 2016
Web Source S108:27:
www
WorldConnect: John Payne (?-1635)
Questions by Patrick A. Payne
Web Source S108:28:
www
FamilySearch: Charlie Frank Gould (1865-1936)
Image of Pedigree of him and his wife: 2016
Web Source S108:29:
www
FamilySearch: Joseph Payne (1695-1767)
as of 2016
Web Source S108:30:
www
Thomas Dison Roberts Genealogy (undated)
as of 2016
Web Source S108:31:
www
Ancestry: John Gould (22 Jun 1668-?)
as of 2016
Web Source S108:32: gbook
Google Books - Acadian Genealogy Exchange, Volumes 18-20 by J. Jehn. 1989 - Cajuns
Sophie Payne: pp 54,55
Web Source S108:33:
www
Grave of Frank Charles Gould (1861-1936)
FindAGrave ID: 130461143
Web Source S108:34:
www
Obituary: Ruth Simmons (1921-2013)
Federal Way Mirror, Federal Way, Wash 20153
Web Source S108:35:
www
Obituary: John Randolph Barber (1921-2014)
Dignity Memorial as of 2016
Web Source S108:36:
www
Family Baptisms: James GOULD & Sophie PENN
FS Records:Nova Scotia Church Records as of 2016
Web Source S108:37:
www
1787 Alumnus: Hiram Payne
. . . Alumni of Dartmouth College (p47) as of 2016
Web Source S108:38:
www
mention of John Payne, Samuel Payne, John Payne Jr. and Lemuel Payne on pp 1, 2, 3 etc
Book: Bethel, VT. 1895 by Fred C. Cox in Cornell University Library
Web Source S108:39:
www
Records of the Town and Churches of Coventry Connecticut 1711-1844
Book 7 (above)
Web Source S108:40:
www
Descendants of Joseph Payne m Elizabeth Sims
WorldConnect DB: killian by George W. Killian
Web Source S108:41:
www
71 page Pension Document cited by Karen Sims
at Ancestry.com (paid membersip is required)
Web Source S108:42:
www
See `Jemima Payne` at Thetford Township
at Rootsweb at Ancestry.com
Web Source S108:43:
www
Reply dated Aug 6, 2016 to SimsK re Baptisms
Article 108 by David Cole
Web Source S108:44:
www
Biography of Ranna Cossit (aka Rene Cossitt)
Dictionary of Canadian Biography Vol V (1801-1820)
Web Source S108:45:
www
Descendancy of John Payne (1725-?)
FamilySearch as of Aug 7, 2016
Web Source S108:46:
www
Payne Hiram (1763-1845)
email from Karen Sims Aug 6, 2016
Web Source S108:47:
www
Payne, James Pension Application
from Karen Sims Aug 6, 2016
Web Source S108:48:
www
Lt. James Gould Sr. & His Ancestors
by David Cole 2016 B Feb 08
Web Source S108:49:
www
Google Books: The family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield [,MA]
by Benjamin Apthorp Gould in 1895
Web Source S108:50:
www
History of Nova Scotia: Book#1: The Lion & The Lily
by Peter Landry, published in 2007 (Also see Book 8 in these External References)
Web Source S108:51:
www
The Badcock family of Massachusetts [Descendancy]. p 6
Babcock Genealogy by Stephen Babcock, M.A., by W.S. Appleton, Boston: David Clapp & Son, 564 Washington Street, 1881
Web Source S108:52:
www
Life of James Babcock (1677-1740) p55
History of Ancient Windham, Ct. Genealogy (Book 9) by Weaver 1864
Web Source S108:53:
www
John Payne (1751-1814)
Murrant web site by Roy Murrant (the only known source of John's death date.)
Web Source S108:54:
www
Roy Murrant`s phone & address etc
from the Murrant web site by Roy Murrant
Web Source S108:55:
www
John Payne (1751-1825)
Email from Karen Sims to David Cole dated Aug 2, 2016
Web Source S108:56:
www
FamilySearch: Sophie Paine Pern Penn (1776-1857)
wife of William Cummings (1779-?)
Web Source S108:57:
www
Sophia (Payne) (Gould) Cummings From Connecticut to Canada (118)
Book 10 republished on the web by David Cole 2018 F Jun 20
Web Source S108:58:
www
Anne Payne (1616-1668)
in Roberts Family Tree by Russell Roberts at Ancestry.org
Web Source S108:59:
www
Charles Leete (1811-1877)
in Darling Family Tree by Shawnd3 at Ancestry.org
Web Source S108:60:
www
Docteur Patrick Peter Delaney
by David KC Cole in 2020
Web Source S108:61:
www
Biography of Docteur Patrick Peter Delaney
Association National
Web Source S108:62:
www
Anna Payne (1621-1668)
in the restored WorldConnect database
Web Source S108:63:
www
PaineDatabase
by silvietripod.com
Sources Note: The www link is a "live link" to the web. Many web pages change and are moved, even to different websites by their webmasters. Eventually some pages become "lost". Because web links (maintained by others) can deteriorate with time, a second link is given. It may be a more-reliable link to a back-up copy of the pertinent information on the web page or to an alternate source of the information that was similar to the "live link".
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